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    Postby Cret » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:16 am

    Don't agree about an icy hill Gaz but yeah for the rest.

    If you're on ice, short of having chains or studs (no, not that sort of thing!) on the tyres no car will be controllable on a hill.
    And the bigger and heavier it is, the faster it'll slide and further it'll slide!

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    Re: Snow!

    Postby gazza_ » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:37 am

    i come down over injerbreck b4 with the road just sheet ice from where the trees start to the bottem at the hairpin
    yes it was a bit hairy but we got to get to the bottem in one bit.
    fair to say if we meet anything then god knows what would have happined.

    Maybe i used the wrong word grip, maybe i should have used diden lose 2 much grip :thumbleft:

    to me driving on ice is no diffrence to be being on a really steep hard wet grass bank, yes its an ass in the seat of the pants moment, but with the right amount of skill and power speed and control it can be done.
    Thats how i learned to drive on ice, years of that sh*t on hills that you have to get up and worse come down again.
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    Re: Snow!

    Postby Cret » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:51 am

    Yeah but I suspect you're talking about a mixture of ice and clumps of grass sticking through it and bits like that.

    If it's just ice and nothing else then like I say nothing short of chains or studs will get any traction on a hill, but if there's the odd little bit of something else here & there then yeah I suppose a skilled driver might get away with it.

    On a flat surface even sheet ice can be driven on. Just slowly! :lol:
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    Re: Snow!

    Postby tree » Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:26 am

    Nope not china blue one.

    Trackdays are about £80. next one i belive is in March time. Brilliant laugh even if on the last one I went on both Jonathon and myself managed to kill out vehicles. hah but they live once again.
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    Re: Snow!

    Postby gazza_ » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:46 am

    Cret wrote:Yeah but I suspect you're talking about a mixture of ice and clumps of grass sticking through it and bits like that.

    If it's just ice and nothing else then like I say nothing short of chains or studs will get any traction on a hill, but if there's the odd little bit of something else here & there then yeah I suppose a skilled driver might get away with it.

    On a flat surface even sheet ice can be driven on. Just slowly! :lol:


    no no,
    a steep hard field with short grass after a bit of rain and it is like driving on ice,no grip because the ground is that hard the grass makes it slide, and a lot steeper than any roads in the island. strap 12ton behind you. your sat on 7 ton so your talking 19ton all up and it makes for an intresting day, but it can be done.
    Not that its nice mind you.

    You can get away without traction as long as you keep the speed the right. i seen me slide well over 400meters without a chance of hells way of stopping and you just got to be brave and go faster
    just anuf to stop the wheels spinning but to stay in control. but there is a vary fine line of being in control and being out of it. 1/2 mph can mean the diffrence of getting to the bottem or ending on your roof.
    Or worst case running out of gears, because once them wheels start going backwards the only thing you can do is go faster and get the wheels spinning the right way, but once you have done that you have to try and go back down the gears again or let of the peddle and hope for the best.

    Like i said injerbreck sheet ice all the way down and we got to the bottem, not that we chanced it again
    It can be done it has been done, but christ it puts hair on your chest and sh*t in your pants.
    i take you out next time and show you if you like :D

    But i do know what your saying because even i can have miss haps i have done in the past and will do again no dowt then again it prob dont help where i go :D , lucky its only ever been bent bumpers and such, hedges are quite soft when they have snow on it.
    But if you dont know the ice is there or hit ice then to be honest chances are you have got no hope at all, best advice i can allways give for that head for a hedge as soon as, while its going to damage your car 10mph into a hedge is better than 30mph. because once you lose grip its amazing how fast you gain speed.
    If you lose traction going down hill in ice or up it, steer towards the hedge and try and kiss the hedge on the way dow, should take some speed of with out causeing hugh amounts of damage, depending on what the hedges are like,

    nearly came a cropper on the brandywell road, had to turn back round because of the drifts, but had to go like a tit to get over the drifts on the way back down,
    we got to 30mph till i decided that i may be in trouble and with the tight right hander fast approching i took the only choice i could.
    find the biggest drift and slam in to it, took 3 of the buggers to get me down to a safe speed, road was like a sheet of ice!!!!!

    (PS i had Good reason to be up there so dont worry Mr plod and that part of the road was not shut)
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    Re: Snow!

    Postby ///AMG MERCINATOR » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:21 am

    find the biggest drift and slam in to it, took 3 of the buggers to get me down to a safe speed, road was like a sheet of ice!!!!!

    It can be done it has been done, but christ it puts hair on your chest and sh*t in your pants.

    Or worst case running out of gears, because once them wheels start going backwards the only thing you can do is go faster and get the wheels spinning the right way, but once you have done that you have to try and go back down the gears again or let of the peddle and hope for the best.

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    Re: Snow!

    Postby ///AMG MERCINATOR » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:28 am

    tree wrote:Nope not china blue one.

    Trackdays are about £80. next one i belive is in March time. Brilliant laugh even if on the last one I went on both Jonathon and myself managed to kill out vehicles. hah but they live once again.


    Hmm Arctic white one?
    £80!! Sodd that!
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    Re: Snow!

    Postby Cret » Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:35 pm

    Aren't you loaded if you're into Merc's?

    £80 is just about affordable once in a while. But when you add in all the fuel you use, rapid wear of brakes etc and things breaking potentially it can be an expensive business.

    Gaz - I know what you're saying mate. I think we have two different perspectives on the same thing that's all.
    I agree that it's possible if you're really careful to get down an icy hill in one piece but once you begin sliding it's out of your hands. Physics will decide what's going to happen!
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    Re: Snow!

    Postby Marshall » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:13 pm

    I'll just leave this old, but relevant, Youtube clip here.... :lol:
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    Re: Snow!

    Postby gazza_ » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:21 pm

    Funny clip that.
    what was the first car trying to do power out of it, thats one person that does not have a clue lol
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